QB43 The Seals Trumpets and Bowls (Part 2)

In our quest to determine where the sequences of seals, trumpets and bowls fit into the end time narrative, I have laid an important chronological marker in stating that the sixth seal and seventh trumpet converge on the Day of the Lord, when Jesus comes as the Son of Man to gather His Elect as in Matt 24. I proposed in Quick Bite 41 the wrath of God will not yet have been unleashed up to this point. That’s because the wrath of God is reserved until after the rapture and will be poured out in the seven bowls. We’ve dealt with objections to this position already from the progressive view in Quick Bite 42, but now we must respond to challenges from the simultaneous view, which believes the sequence of seals, trumpets and bowls are either concurrent or even describe the same event but from a different perspective, if that were so, then the bowls would not follow the trumpets. The simultaneous view compares the details depicted in the three sequences and observes the similarities between them. For example the first trumpet and first bowl both relate to the earth (Rev 8:7, 16:2), the second trumpet and second bowl relate to the sea (Rev 8:8,9, 16:3), the third trumpet and bowl relate to rivers and springs (Rev 8:10,11, 16:4), and the fourth trumpet and bowl both relate to the sun (Rev 8:12, 16:8,9). Now whilst the similarities are clearly observable, the resemblance is not enough to claim them as happening at the same time or indeed that they are the same event. An example that undermines the reliability of the simultaneous view is the comparison of the earthquake mentioned in all three sequences, namely the sixth seal, the seventh trumpet and the seventh bowl. Listen carefully to the description of the earthquake in each.

Rev 6:12-14 NKJV – 12 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood. 13 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 14 Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.

After the seventh trumpet we read Rev 11:19 NKJV – 19 Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail.

Then in Rev 16:17-20 NKJV – 17  the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth. 19 Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 20 Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

In each sequence there will be an earthquake. And because the devastation caused will be so great, especially with the sixth bowl and seventh seal earthquakes, the simultaneous view sees these as the same event, since such colossal damage can only happen once. The argument goes like this: “If the sixth seal earthquake causes every mountain and island to be removed, then that’s a final, unrepeatable process. The earthquake in Rev 16:20 which records every island to flee away and every mountain to not be found must therefore be describing the same event.” On the face of it, that would seem to be a good point. However, as always, let’s go back to the text and see what it’s actually saying and what it’s not. Here’s the sixth seal earthquake again in Rev 6:14 “Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place.” The Greek word for ‘moved’ is kinéō (ke-neh-o) and means to be moved, set in motion, to remove. It also means: to excite, disturb, to throw into commotion, or to wag. Wag meaning to shake back and forth as in a dog wagging its tail. This word kinéō (ke-neh-o) is used to describe the riot of the Ephesians against Pauls preaching in Acts 21:30 which reads “And all the city was disturbed” other translations “The whole city was rocked” or “Then all the city was stirred up”. I suggest what Rev 6:14 is describing in the sixth seal is not a disappearance or removal, but a shaking of the mountains as one would expect with an earthquake, but what it isn’t describing is a complete disappearance as in the earthquake at the time of the seventh bowl in Rev 16:20 Which reads “Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.” Incidentally, the word ‘fled’ in Greek means ‘to escape safely out of danger, to shun something abhorrent, to flee, seek safety by flight’. But what isn’t in this verse is the word kinéō (ke-neh-o) as it was in Rev 6:14.

In summary then, I have proposed the seventh trumpet and sixth seal converge on the day of the Lord when the Lord will come on the clouds as the Son of Man with His angels to gather His Elect. The wrath of God has been withheld until this point as we learnt in Quick Bite 41, and as I will cover next time, the wrath of God is poured out in the seven bowls. Since this viewpoint does not conform to either the progressive or simultaneous view, I have responded to objections proposed by both. Now that we have done so I can confidently continue laying out this Bridal perspective on the unfolding of future events.

Did you enjoy this article?

Why not help us to spread the word and use the facebook or other social sharing links below. We'd really appreciate it, thanks!


Other Posts in 'Quick Bites'

Quick Bites

QB55 – The Second Exodus (Part 9)

11 Aug 2020
The Bride will be prepared in the wilderness. It is here that we are able to make our final wedding preparations. The wilderness is not a place of suffering...

Quick Bites

QB54 The Second Exodus (Part 8)

10 Aug 2020
In this series, we have covered a lot of ground and some really difficult prophetic passages. I’ve chosen just a selection of verses available to piece together enough of...

Quick Bites

QB53 The Second Exodus (Part 7)

5 Aug 2020
Hi everybody and welcome back for part 7 in this series ‘The Second Exodus’. If you’ve just joined us, and not watched parts 1 to 6, then it’s good...

Quick Bites

QB52 The Second Exodus (Part 6)

4 Aug 2020
Trying to locate where the gathering of Israel will be on the Day of the Lord is notoriously difficult, and I will do well not to be absolute in...

Quick Bites

QB51 – The Second Exodus (Part 5)

3 Aug 2020
The gathering of Israel was prophesied many times by the Old Testament prophets, but more than this, the time of their gathering is also foretold as connected with the...

Quick Bites

QB50 The Second Exodus (Part 4)

31 Jul 2020
Dan 12:5-7 [ESV2011] 5 Then I, Daniel, looked, and behold, two others stood, one on this bank of the stream and one on that bank of the stream. 6...

Quick Bites

QB49 The Second Exodus (Part 3)

30 Jul 2020
When asked by His disciples what would be the sign of His coming and of the end of the age Matt 24:3 we have no record of Jesus mentioning...

Quick Bites

QB48 The Second Exodus (Part 2)

28 Jul 2020
In part one of this mini-series, I asked the question when will Jesus stand on the Mount of Olives to provide a means of escape for those besieged in...

Quick Bites

QB47 The Second Exodus (Part 1)

27 Jul 2020
Zech 14:1-5 [NET2] A day of the LORD is about to come when your possessions will be divided as plunder in your midst. 2 For I will gather all...

More Recent Teaching from Mike

Elijah in the cave

Living in Prophetic Consciousness – 7

20 Nov 2019
Living in Prophetic Consciousness – Part 7 To the glorious Bride of our Lord Jesus Christ, I pray that you will stand strong and not be moved away in...

Elijah in the cave

Living in Prophetic Consciousness 6

18 Nov 2019
Dearly beloved of God, may you know the fullness of your salvation in Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit that works so powerfully within your whole man....

Elijah in the cave

Living in Prophetic Consciousness 5

17 Nov 2019
So far, in this series of “Prophetic Consciousness”, I have been laying some foundational principles which we’ll come back to later as I hope to expound upon something I’ve...

Elijah in the cave

Living in Prophetic Consciousness 4

16 Nov 2019
I have been sharing about prophetic consciousness and the importance for the Bride to ascend into a higher state of glory so that she is able to fulfil her...

Elijah in the cave

Living in Prophetic Consciousness 3

15 Nov 2019
To the Bride of Christ who are learning how to keep their lamps lit as we await the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, may we grow with increasing...

Elijah in the cave

Living in Prophetic Consciousness 2

13 Nov 2019
Day 2 Ascension into the Mind of Christ Dearly beloved of God, may His grace uphold you and His peace surround you. May the Spirit of Life who is...

Looking for something? Try the search facility

About the author: Dr Mike Pike

Live with my wife Jo in Cornwall UK, together we have raised five children and have served the Lord for over thirty years within the UK and in many other nations. My passion is for the coming of Jesus the Bridegroom King, and I long to see the Bride call upon Him to come.

CONTACT US


GET CONNECTED

Join our Facebook Group and become part of this growing movement around the world. On the group you'll join the Call2Come family and have the opportunity to participate and discuss various topics and teachings all of which are available. Other features on the Facebook group include

  • Live Streaming
  • Full library of the Call2Come teaching in various formats
  • Word for the day
  • Latest news and developments

CONNECT WITH US

JOIN OUR FACEBOOK GROUP

SUBSCRIBE

If you want to receive our newsletter, simply provide your email in the box below. You will then be sent a confirmation email immediately which you need to respond to. Thank you!